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Trade #87 Whil You Still Can!

Posted on: November 10, 2009 9:48 pm
Edited on: November 10, 2009 9:51 pm
 
I loved Sidney Crosby. I really did. When I saw him in his rookie season-breaking the record for youngest player to reach 100 points. But after 3 100 point seasons in 4 years...which is great. After that, and this the 5th year. I'd like a trade. I know I'll probably get hammered for this but....Evgeni Malkin and 2 All-Star wingers are more than enough fair market value. Dany Heatley and Marian Hossa for #87. I'll take it!. Sure a trade like that is hard to ink and even harder to actually pull off. Evgeni Malkin is a Monster who uses his size oh so well. Something Sid just can't. Go to Youtube and search Evgeni Malkin Highlight Video and you will be treated to a jaw-dropping array of plays that he single-handedly produced! My God. What a talent. Who needs a supporting cast. Now The Next One. But since Evgeni Malkin proved he can carry the Pittsburgh Penguins on his back when Sidney Crosby is out. All the Penguins need is a great pure-goal scorer winger and a Ron Francis-ish #2 center.
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Since: Apr 17, 2009
Posted on: April 21, 2010 10:59 am
 

Trade #87 Whil You Still Can!

LOL, yeah - bad call. Wink

I missed this the first time around, but it would have been a much more interesting topic of discussion 5 months ago than it is now.  Malkin was troubled by injuries for a good portion of the season, and Crosby produced big-time, sharing the Rocket Richard trophy and coming within 3 points of the overall scoring champ as well. 

After the postseason Malkin had last year, I'd have thought that Geno would be dominating the scoring again this year... and he's certainly been no slouch with four goals.  But Crosby is playing on a Mario-like level right now, with everyone else relegated to the supporting cast.

I think the answer is that what makes the Pens so dominating is the fact that they have legitimate first-line-caliber stars in the middle of three lines (Crosby, Malkin, and Staal).  There's no team in the league that can shut down all three lines, and playing the "shadow game" with Crosby and/or Malkin only opens up the ice all the more for their linemates to capitalize on.  The Pens' superstar-depth is their ultimate strength, and trading away one of the superstars for a package of lesser players would change them from perennial Cup contender to playoff also-ran.



Since: Nov 4, 2006
Posted on: April 19, 2010 4:49 pm
 

Trade #87 Whil You Still Can!

Boy did I get this one wrong! I feel like those NHL experts who think the San Jose Sharks could ever win a Stanley Cup. Love ya in the regular season but it the postseason you like lost.



Since: Nov 4, 2006
Posted on: November 20, 2009 11:07 pm
 

Trade #87 Whil You Still Can!

I love Sidney Crosby. But when #87 went down with the high-ankle sprain. Evgeni Malkin-removed from Crosby's Shadow became a Monster. Sure the names I mentioned may no fit mathematically. But a high-scoring winger and a #2 center would be fair market value (Unless of course Crosby's New Team turns out to fit like a glove). But I'm thinking 1992. John Cullen for Ron Francis and Ulf Samuelsson. Two for the price of one. I hope I'm wrong. But I can't help but think with Crosby gone, Malkin will reach Mark Messier standards of leadership and Guy Lafleur status in hardware. I simply want what u want. Pittsburgh Penguins Dynasty Year-After-Year! Best Wishes. Me.



Since: Oct 21, 2006
Posted on: November 20, 2009 9:15 am
 

Trade #87 Whil You Still Can!

I hear and read a lot of goofy non substantiated crap on these boards all the time, but this is by far the biggest pile of bull dung I have ever read.  Congrats that takes a superior amount of talent to accomplish on here.  Well done your parents must be proud of you.

There are several thing you dont seem to understand.  #1 SALARY CAP.  Sure Sidney Crosby has a pretty high wage, but you are talking about trading him for Marian Hossa (2/3 Sids salary) and Dany Heatley (2/3 Sids salary).  Do the math on that.  Pittsburgh is already at the cap max, and by your trade they would go over which means they would have to throw in at least another decently paid person.  NOT A SMART MOVE!

Next issue you want to get rid of a young gun for 2 past their prime players.  Why?  That just doesnt make sense.  You would be giving up 100 points in Crosby and you wouldnt be getting 100 points in return by adding those 2 players.  You cant give up goals or assists in the NHL.  Not to mention they can have Sidney Crosby for another 10+ years and they would be lucky to get 10 years total between Heatley and Hossa.  And you cannot take what Jossa oes for the Blackhawks and add in what Heatley does and say thats what they would have done for Pittsburgh.  Thats not how it works.  Your linemates can make you better or worse depending on how good they are.

Evgeni Malkin is a good player no doubt, and I do feel bad for him that he sits in Crosby shadow for the Penguins.  If I was to trade anyone it would be Malkin only because I wonder how happy he is knowing what he makes and knowing what Sidney makes.  Eventually he will want more money and he may get tired of being in Sids shadow.  If that happens it doesnt matter what money they offer him he wont stay in Pittsburgh.  I wouldnt trade him right now though.  I would try to get a contract extension a year or two before his contract is up to get a feel for how he is thinking about the situation, and if things dont progress and it seems like he will leave anyways I would trade him for someone I think I would have a shot to re-sign.   



Since: Aug 27, 2008
Posted on: November 11, 2009 4:25 pm
 

Trade #87 Whil You Still Can!

Well first you fail to realize or maybe you just arent aware. Is that the situation situation the Pens are in now is far more daunting for Crosby then it was for Malkin at that time.  Now don't get me wrong YES 100% Evgeni Malkin is the TRUTH!  He by far has the better shot over crosby and yes he does use his frame to his advantage.  But he does not possess the drive and will of #87.  Lest we forget it was Crosby who basically jumpstarted the Pens in nearly every playoff game this past year? He scored a playoff best 15 goals in the process and had the first goal in like 6 of those games... think he tied a record but not sure. 

When Crosby went down from the ankle sprain the other injuries on the team I believe were  Eaton, and Roberts were like the only ones hurt mabybe MAF too but Conks stood on his head lets not forget that.  This time is way different.  The Pens have  played the most hockey in the NHL the last two seasons except for maybe the Wings.  That in itself doesn't help and is probably why the injuries are piling up.  Also Malkin had a red hot Sykora a force in Malone and the rest of the team was basically intact.  We are desimated with injuries right now.  When #87 got hurt Malkin came out of nowhere with his play and teams were not aware of the type of skill he possessed and thus may have caught them off guard with his playmaking.  Teams only have to worry about #87 now.  We don't have elite wingers and when you lose 3 of your 4 top defense your going to have problems.  and frankly Guerin has been getting stoned out there.  It's just a totally different team right now.  You can't look at this and say trade Crosby he is and will be for the foreseeable future the face of Pens and deservedly so.


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